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Your Child and Your Partner

September 10th 2006 02:05
Its difficult juggling a relationship with the many commitments we modern day people have. Pitch a child into the mix and things get slightly more complicated.

Children, depending on their ages, will react differently to their mummy or daddy having a new partner. As a parent, you can control the situation by how you introduce your child to the new partner and the ground rules you put in place.

Here are some suggestions:

Before they meet

1) Make sure that the person you introduce your child to will be around for a while

In other words, don’t introduce them to someone you’ve only be seeing for two weeks. Children need stability and they can very quickly become attached to people. If the relationship breaks up, the child will have no understanding why and may believe it’s because their ‘friend’ doesn’t like them anymore.

2) Find out what their thoughts are on parenting

It helps if your ideas of parenting are similar to theirs. Significant differences in beliefs relating to child rearing can cause problems not only in your relationship, but also with the child themselves. Remember though that there are many different acceptable parenting methods and whilst you might not agree with some of their methods, it doesn’t necessarily make them wrong. Ultimately though, never lose sight that the child is yours and at the end of the day, it’s up to you to re-enforce your position as the child’s parent to both your partner and the child.

3) Talk to your partner about what you do and don’t feel comfortable with


If you don’t feel comfortable at this stage with your partner disciplining your child, tell them. If you want to see them interact with your child by playing a game of snap, for example, tell them. They are not going to know what is and isn’t acceptable if you don’t tell them. If they have had little exposure to children before, they may need some advice on what’s appropriate, what’s not and how to interact with a child.

The meeting

1) Plan the meeting in a public place & for a specified amount of time


The first meeting between your child and your partner should take place in a child friendly environment. This is important because your child won’t feel like they are on show, nor will they feel like they are required to interact with your partner. The reality is they may not feel comfortable to start with, so giving them an opportunity to run off and play then come back for a quick chat gives them a bit of control over the situation. A park or somewhere like McDonald’s is good for this. Even if your two favourite people really seemed to have hit it off, limit their first meeting to a couple of hours. Over time you can gradually increase this. It’s very important that your child does not feel that their time with mummy or daddy is being threatened by someone else.

2) Limit public displays of affection

At this point, your child really does not need to see you being groped by your partner. Limit affectionate moves to hand-holding, cuddling and ‘tame’ kissing. This will save you having to explain things that are not necessary at this point. You may find that your child will become jealous over the affectionate actions between you and your partner – include them in hugs and make sure you are openly affectionate with your child when your partner is around.

After they meet

1) Respect is key

Your child must respect your partner and likewise, your partner must respect your child. Any variations to this will need to be addressed immediately.

2) Make sure your partner experiences the good and not just the bad

Occasionally, new partners often take the role of the ‘baddie’ in parenting. A child might do something wrong and the parent might remark ‘best clean that up or ____ will be cranky!’. This does not put a positive slant on your partner’s role with your child. Similarly, if your partner disciplines your child, they should also make time to play with your child. No person has the right to routinely reprimand a child if they do not spend time encouraging the child. As a mum you experience the good and the bad, ensure your partner experiences them too.

3) Spend time alone with your child

It’s very important that you still have alone time with your child. Plan one afternoon a week where you and your child do something together, alone. It may be as simple as a board game or a trip to the ice cream shop. As with all child-parent relationships, they change and grow, just as your child will change and grow. Stay in touch with them by ensuring you continue to work on building a strong bond with them. If you feel comfortable with it, encourage your partner and child to spend time alone together as well. They also need time to allow their relationship to grow as they grow as individuals.

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As with most relationship situations, open communication is the key to success. Talk to your partner about any parenting issues you’re having. Talk to your child about how they’re feeling in regards to the new person in your life. If need be, then find the time for yourself to talk to someone about the situation. Things might not run smoothly to start with but with perseverance and understanding a harmonious relationship between you, your child and your partner can be achieved.

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Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 02:47
Have you got any suggestions for single parents re-entering the relationship game?

Comment by perfickcat

September 10th 2006 09:51
Oh pleeaase.....Only introduce your children to someone who is going to be around longer than say, two weeks........Whatever happened to stability in relationships? I am not a traditonallist in that it should be marriage and the whole old-fashioned white wedding trip. But, seriously, if we bring children into this world shouldn't we be offering them some sort of committment longer than a few weeks?
I believe in todays society apart from the odd revenge from nature on mankind, that there s no reason for births unless a child is really wanted and desired by both parties involved. Be it same sex couples or hetrosexual couples. I believe it is a selfish concept for a child to be conceived and brought into this world by a single parent. Realstically I don't believe all these suddenfailed partnerships either. With Australian Federal Governement offering $4000 baby bonus and then paying a bonus for immunisation, there is another breed of child being conceived for the purpose of raising revenue.
So with that in mind I suppose the comments above Ýour Child and Your Partner could be valid in that context? A baby should be a precious commodity of life, of an extension of a 'line', an extension of a couples love and devotion, not merely a money making exercise or plaything. Back in the early seventies and prior there was a class taken at High School that was called Mothercraft. The class enabled young women the opporunity to learn the basics of rearing a child. It was profound in providing an indepth overview of the responsibilities and the time consuming role of rearing children. The illnesses, the lifetime committment. Nowadays the preparation taken in the decision to have a child appears to ensure that the bank account is current for the funds to be deposited into.

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 10:43
1) Regardless of whether its two weeks, three months or a year before a parent introduces their child to a new partner - it's entirely their decision and every situation is different. When does a relationship become a relationship? The post was merely stating that the parent should be certain as to the permanancy of their relationship with the new partner.

2) Whilst I'm not denying the possibility that there are some children born to put dollars into a bank account - I doubt that it is as wide spread an empidemic as you suggest. Regardless, this blog isn't here to berate parents for the reasons they have a child, nor is it here to act as the 'be all and end all guide book' for parent hood. Perhaps if you have issues regarding the amount of the baby bonus and other governmnent funded payments you should attack the person responsible - the government.
Besides, kids cost a hell of a lot more to raise than a lump sum payment of $4000.

3) These people who are having babies for the reasons you've suggested - well I think they would benefit from positive encouragement to be the best parent they can be as opposed to cyncism and rejection by society.

4) It's a fact of life today that there are many single parents out there. Be it that they decided to have a baby on their own, or a marriage has failed for whatever reason. Regardless of the reason, the parent has a right to move on with their life.

All the comments in this post are valid in any context relating to any single parent out there (regardless of the reason as to why they are a single parent).

Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 12:26
Well all that is awful complex, and probably annoying for the child.

Come the day I get married I will never accept divorce if I have kids.. never I say! Just feels like a lot of stress for a young person to go through...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 12:30
A child would be more stressed if subjected to an unhappy household should you force someone to stay in a relationship they no longer want to be in.

Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 12:49
Well I'm going to be certain its a happy relationship before bringing in a new member to it...

Well honestly if I was that old and my Mum broke up with my dad and went off to find someone else I don't really think I would have taken it very well at all. I'd probably have prefered her to stay single forever and ever and if she did get married to someone else I'd probably prefer to live with my dad at that point, and if he got married to someone else...

Well I'm just glad it didn't happen to me then. I was always greedy as a child...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 12:53
We're all greedy as children - I'm still greedy as an adult!!

Everyone should be serious about having a happy relationship before contemplating children, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. It's just unfortunate that relationships at times do not work out.

A lot of kids go through feelings of resentment towards the new partner - it's only natural, I went through it when my parents divorced and mum re-partnered. I was lucky enough though that my step-dad is an awesome human being.

It's natural for an adult to want to meet someone else but they also need to minimise any negative impact it may cause on the child's life.

Comment by Little Angry Doll

September 10th 2006 12:57
This is great advice. I'm passing this post onto a friend who will appreciate it.

Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 12:57
The problem is the divorce rates are so high these days, its apparently more than 50% There seems to be a problem with how relationships are being treated.

I mean preventing is better than curing, the problem is that either people don't know how to sustain a long relationship or they simply can't yet it seems all the ideas of love and happiness get to them first and they have children...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 12:59
Angry Little Doll - finally some positive feedback! Big fan of positive feedback! Thank you! I hope your friend finds the post useful.

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 13:01
Hi Ahmed

I couldn't agree more that how society views relationships has changed significantly from when our grandparents were children.

Regardless of the divorce rate etc, there'd still be single parents out there, through no fault of their own. A widow is a single parent. Should they shut themselves off from relationships until the child has left home?

Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 13:04
No I agree, such happenings are inevitable. However they should be reduced, I don't understand how they can be so high.

There should be atleast a 90% success rate in marriage. I think ideally it should be 99%. I know I'm probably a dreamer, but I think a lot of other people are in regards to marriage.

It seems like the idea of it being love and all makes it magical when its not, its really a physical thing two people have to get themselves through it, for better or worse. My Year 12 English teacher said that its quite ossibly because pepole lack comitment, that love is binding and even if the flare is lost two people should stay together because all the pish posh is bound to end sometime...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 13:09
Otherwise known as the end of the honeymoon period! Part of the new Family Law Reforms has been to open Family Relationship Centres around Australia. At these centres there will be pre-marriage counselling (or relationship counselling for those not getting married) and I think that's an absolutely brilliant idea. Hopefully, it will help to reduce the divorce rate a bit.

Comment by Little Angry Doll

September 10th 2006 13:11
They will - trust me.

Sometimes it's almost paralysing for mum's of littlies to get back out there.

And was I ever negative? I was just being silly with the "monsters". I don't really taunt my child with "Can you hear 'It' breathing?"
It's an old Gary Larson (The Far Side) comment.

Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 13:12
Another thing that would help is the end of the pish posh TV shows and movies advertising marriage as some sort of 24/7 love affair.

I'm one of those guys who thinks its all the medias fault, I dunno how accurate it may be but thats the only real thing thats changing in our lives. You see it in movies like 'mask of zorro' and stuff...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 13:15
Angry Little Doll, I was referring to the comment made at the beginning of the comments, not one by you!!!

It is paralysing, been there and done that! A relationship break up can be so taxing on your self esteem that you often think you're better off at home on your own.

My belief is that to be the best parent you can be, you need to be happy with your life and if that means repartnering then so be it!

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 13:22
I think it's hard to pin point what has caused such a massive increase in relationships failures. Not to mention it could take hours to debate it.

Definately, the media would play a part though.



Comment by Ahmed

September 10th 2006 13:25
How big a part do you think it would play?

Right now honestly I think its like 80% of the cause really...

Comment by Cinico

September 10th 2006 13:31
The media is simply a medium for portraying news, entertainment etc...it's how we as individuals chose to interpret that information that would determine how it impacts our lives.

I think in some respects it is too easy to get a divorce, or to leave your partner.

I believe they should bring in some form of compulsory marriage counselling or pre-child rearing counselling.

Frankly though, whilst I agree that the decline in relationship success is alarming, it doesn't mean that if a relationship breaks up that a parent is a bad parent or had the child for the wrong reasons.




Comment by Johanna

September 10th 2006 23:34
I think this is a great article. I was seeing someone with two children for a while and agreed with him that he shouldn't introduce me to his kids until we knew what we both wanted out of the relationship. It's too confusing for them.

Obviously in an ideal world this wouldn't be an issue and everyone would stay together happily forever. Since we don't live in this world we have to be realistic and children are too important to be forced to like a situation without understanding it fully.

Comment by Cinico

September 11th 2006 01:14
Well said Johanna, thanks for your comment!

Comment by Cibbuano

September 11th 2006 02:20
a good post - it must be awkward being introduced as 'Mommy's friend who stays over'...

Cinico - send me a message with your email address please!

Comment by Penster70

September 12th 2006 06:21
These blogs are not necessarily meant to be instructive they are just kindly reminders to the fact that if you're dating someone with kids, just remember they have other priorities and that all parties should be conscious and obliging about this HUGE part of someone's life

Let's also not forget a big no no...don't send messages via the child between separated parents. Positive messages maybe acceptable on the odd occasion but children should never be used as a go between.

It was probably "mothercraft" parenting classes in the 70's aimed only at women that have helped to increase the divorce rate. These classes do not serve to teach foundations for a happy EQUAL relationship with EQUAL responsibility for the child and it's puts the onus on the mother(bet there weren't any men in these classes as they were all probably doing metalwork or science at the time). Nor does it encourage the mother to feel like a rounded individual, rather it would reinforce her role existing whollyfor the needs of their children. This is one of the reasons that women became dissatisfied with their marriage.

My husband and I have decided that if we have children he would stay at home as he is much more suited to parenting, he has done it before and I have a wonderful 12 year old step-son, his temperament is much more relaxed than mine and I earn more money so can better provide for our family

Comment by Cinico

September 12th 2006 06:28
Thanks for your comment Penster70. You are absolutely right - these blogs are not here as THE guideline for raising your child, they're just here as general information that may or may not be suitable to an individual in a particular situation.

The Mothercraft classes were a bit before my time but I think the point of what they stood for is evident in the title - MOTHERcraft, perhaps we need something entitled PARENTcraft instead!

Good on you for not subjecting yourselves to society's ideals of the perfect family (ie. mum stays home, dad goes to work). I think that's absolutely fantastic!

Comment by Johanna

September 12th 2006 07:07
I think you're decision is great Penster70. Although I do stay at home and look after our baby, but it's not full time caring. I combine this with one day at work to keep my adult independence and the other days I do freelance work and be a mum.

It works out well for the three of us!

Comment by Cinico

September 12th 2006 07:17
Thanks for dropping by again Johanna. I too have a young son who is at school now, I work part-time and I also run my own small business (in my spare time!).

The key is, as you said, to do what works! I think it's fantastic that people are beginning to realise that the parenting methods back in 'the day' are not necessarily the only correct way to raise a child.

Comment by Penster70

September 12th 2006 07:38
It's amazing that many of my girlfriends, family etc look at me with such disdain and utter disappointment when I tell them that I plan to be the one going to work everyday as they can not conceive (pardon the pun) such a propsterous idea.

One of the reasons I married the man is because of his nurturing and sensitive qualities.

So I thank you, heaps, for your supportive comments on this. I hope the message "what works for you" and "choice" eventually becomes the accepted norm, so that our decisions about our families are not scrutinised and put under the spotlight when they don't conform to the general consensus

Of course, this is provided we are lucky enough to have children in the future...fingers and toes and crossed

Comment by Cinico

September 12th 2006 09:21
You're welcome Penster70, anytime you need some positive encouragement send me a message! I struggled with decision to go to back to work after having my son. People would often comment 'a mother's place is at home with her child' etc. It got extremely upsetting after a while. Yet, I bit the bullet and took a part-time job and I'm the happiest I have been in a long time. Not only do I have the joy of being a mum to a very special boy but I also have financial independance . It's done wonders for my self-esteem and I honestly believe my relationship with my son is better now than it was when I was at home with him. Of course, this isn't the case for everyone. Those mum's or dad's who choose to stay home and are happy, that's just as great too!

As I've said on another post, it's not the amount of time you spend with your child, it's the quality of the time you spend with them that truly counts.

Comment by LauraP

September 22nd 2006 14:46
But Ahmed, you dont' have to agree to get divorced. only one person can want it and it will happen. no matter what.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2006 14:55
I don't understand what you mean, ys thats true but what are you getting at?

Comment by LauraP

September 22nd 2006 14:57
You said

"Come the day I get married I will never accept divorce if I have kids.. never I say! "

I could have easily written those words 10 years ago. But I got divorced, with kids. I didn't want this. I would have done anything to NOT get divorced. I had no say in the matter.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2006 14:59
ah yes I see, well I fully intend on making it work with whomever I end up with before hand. I'll make sure she's atlest more committed than me. Its jsut a better safe than sorr game...

Comment by LauraP

September 22nd 2006 15:01
I'd like to invite you to check out my journal.

I had the same thoughts as you.. and got divorced anyway.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2006 15:07
I'll have to look at it from a different angle then...

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