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Welcome to Chatter on Children - where we talk about everything and anything under the sun that has got to do with... Yes you guess it! K-I-D-S! You are more than welcome to drop a message or two. And don't forget to bring a friend who may be interested on our posts.

How Do You Teach a Child to Ride a Bike?

September 28th 2006 09:56
Jack’s sixth birthday is fast approaching and I’ve decided to buy him a bike, with a helmet of course.

When he was younger he had a little bike with training wheels but he never got the hang of it and soon outgrew it.

I figured that this was a good time to buy him a bike and teach him to ride properly. With summer coming up it will be nice to take an evening stroll while watching him tire himself out pedaling up hills!

Problem is I’m not too sure how I should teach him to ride. Like most mums I can be pretty over protective and am worried that I’m going to mar the experience for him by constantly yelling out ‘slow down, watch that crack, there’s a car three kilometers away –you better get off and walk!’

I’ve had a look at a few bikes and the ones that are for his size don’t come with training wheels so I’m going to have to buy the one that comes with a life time supply of cotton wool (to wrap him in!).

Other than knowing that I’ll probably need to stock up on band aids, ice packs and hugs, I’m clueless!

Do I just put him on it, tell him to pedal and close my eyes till I hear him scream?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and if he falls off, I promise I won’t sue you.

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Comment by Chantal

September 28th 2006 12:19
Advice?

Delegate the responsibility to someone else

Honestly, though... in my experience with kids, they're just so eager to learn. Any scrapes and injuries will just make him more motivated to conquer the challenge. It's you that will need the strength to let him get back on and try again!

Comment by Cinico

September 28th 2006 12:22
Ooh - Delegate! I never thought of that one, I knew Poppy's were good for something, after all he taught him to fish, why not ride a bike too! Thanks for that Chantal!


Comment by The Daily Sonnet

September 28th 2006 20:11
No training wheels for his size? He must be a big kid, then. Maybe you can start him on a stationary exercise bike to get him used to pedaling and holding handle bars.

Comment by Cibbuano

September 28th 2006 22:06
I didn't learn to ride a bike till I was pretty old - my dad got frustrated.

The mistake he made, I think, is he tried to teach me to ride slow, when actually, balance is easiest when you're riding fast.

Comment by MelissaA

September 29th 2006 00:27
I didn't learn myself till I was in my mid teens.
Delegating is good - I've managed to do that so far.

You can buy training wheels separately at some bike shops etc. I don't know why they wouldn't have it with the bike - my daughter was 6 also when she got hers and it came with them.

The other thing I've noticed is that you'll probably be physically attached to the bike anyway until they really get the hang of the whole pedalling thing - with or without training wheels. ; )

Comment by Andrea

September 29th 2006 01:56
We bought our daughter her first bike when she was six. My husband started by holding on to the back of the seat and running along behind her, steadying it as she rode.

Then it was my turn.

Bugger this, I thought, and when she started to ride off I pretended I was running along happily behind her.

She didn't have the faintest idea that she was on her own and just rode off as normal ... until she noticed that I was watching from a distance then promptly crashed into the fence.

Give them confidence and they can do anything (within reason).
A.H.

Comment by Some random commenter

September 29th 2006 02:50
I can only tell you what my dad did for me (which I know being a mom will be hard) Balance is easier to achieve going faster when you first start out. My dad found a nice deserted road with a slight downhill grade, showed me how to pedal, how to use the brake, and jogged holding me up until we were going fast enough for him to let go. The trick with kids is knowing when to let them go their own way I suppose. I went about two hundred yards and crashed trying to stop. Skinned my knee and elbow but I was so damn proud it didn't hurt. Thinking back, I learned more than just how to ride a bike, I learned a bit about being a man that day and twenty odd years later I remember it like it was yesterday.

Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 06:22
Hi Daily Sonnet

He's is a big kid......very tall for his age.....a stationery bike..that's not a bad idea.

Thanks for your comment.


Cibbuano

So I just take him to the steepest hill I can find and let go? And they say speed kills!

Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 06:25
Hi MelissaA

You know, so many people have said are you sure they don't come with the bike? that I'm beginning to think I was looking at the wrong sort....so I went back to a couple of bike shops this afternoon with Jack and yep, none that will fit come with training wheels.

I'm going to check if there's somewhere were I can buy them separately so thanks for that suggestion!

I can just imagine myself running along behind him, gripping the seat........probably yelling at him to slow down...good exercise I guess!


Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 06:27
Thanks for your comment Andrea...

I laughed when I read the bit about her thinking you were still behind her and crashing when she realised you weren't!

I'm so glad to hear that their are other parents whose children didn't learn to ride till about 6.......it seems everyone in Jack's school are seasoned pro's!

Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 06:30
Some Random Commenter

Thanks for commenting on my post.

That must be a brilliant memory.......if Jack's remembers his first time with as much fondness as that then I will have done something right!

Thanks.

Comment by Andrea

September 29th 2006 07:30
I hate to say it but I laughed when it happened as well. I'm sure my daughter's forgiven me by now...
A.H.

Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 07:32
Too funny! I do the same thing sometimes, especially if Jack's upset over something and I am trying so hard not too laugh!


Comment by anonymous

September 29th 2006 10:24
It could be worse...you could have bought him roller blades.

I'll teach him, don't worry.

Comment by Cinico

September 29th 2006 10:29
Yes I could have, if I wanted to be really brave.

(notice how this has been all about me and me being scared!)

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 03:37
Show Jack the bike.

Say, "Jack. Before I had you, I had no idea of how I was supposed to go about this whole parenting thing. I've had to work it out for myself. I want you to adopt the same attitude towards this bike. OK?'

If Jack nods, say 'Alright. On your way then.'

If Jack shakes his head, say 'Alright. On your way then.' ...

After that, run into the house, check the first-aid kit, and test your phone to make sure that when you dial OOO the phone is working.

Homer.

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 08:10
Hi Homer

Thanks for dropping by...and the (sound) advice!

You know, they have instructors for music, instructors for tennis, instructors for driving, golf instructors....where's the push bike instructors...I mean, riding is an Olympic Sport afterall........

I think I'll have 000 pre-programmed into my mobile.

And I'll teach Jack how to dial it so that after he crashes and he's up and fine he can call them and say mummy's had a heart attack!

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 08:31
Cinico, he's going to fall and quite possibly cry, thats how boys grow up...

If I were you I'd take it easy... I remember how I learned... ah yes... memories...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 09:33
Were they memories of pain?

I realise I'm over-reacting, I'm a drama queen as I've been told many times!

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:08
I hate to say it, but yes. Memories of pain and anticipating pain when my dad would let go of the bike.


You catch on things pretty quickly when theres pain involved...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 22:13
Too funny Ahmed! You know how to ease a mother's worries!

You're right though - people do catch on pretty quickly to things when there is a pain factor involved.

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:25
Its like ripping a Band Aide off, slow its painful, fast its just quick and done.

SUre it might be slightly more painful for a split second, but its over with quicker and you feel prouder for doing it.

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 22:29
So reading between the lines there I take it that my best option is just to let him go for it......instead of dragging it out because of what I view as being his limitations?

He cries when I take band aides off. This child has a very low pain tolerance level, which I believe is part of the Asperger's.

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:35
Hmm, well you probably are right, his disorder probably contributes to it. In general I find shy people (aka me) have a low pain tolerance level.

Keep in mind he's still 6 years old, its expected that he will, shall we say, express his mind?


Well teach him like my dad taught me, let him sit on the bike and peddle on it while you hold on to the bike the whole time (handle bar and back of the seat) and stear him around when he gets used to going straight, as time goes on you can just hold onto the back of the seat so he can stear himself. Next step is the most difficult, you have to let him go... He probably will go straight into a wall, but will eventaully learn.

Might sound old fashioned but hte best way to raise a boy is by letting him be a boy, that is let him hurt himself a little bit on occasions. It wont help in the future if you remain over protective of him...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 22:39
Sounds like your dad had the teaching thing down pat.......I think that's what I'll do.

You - shy? Never!

I have to admit, I'm not too over protective, I recognise my own fears and don't let them affect his development - I 'let' him break his wrist playing on the monkey bars so I haven't got him locked in a cushioned room!

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:43
I am quite shy in the real world. Sort of, depends on what context really.

Well letting kids to actually breaking their bones is a quality mothers shouldn't have, I'm assuming you just let him play on the bars and he hurt himself. Well atleast you aren't as over protective as you fear you are, perhaps your afraid you might be over protective of him when in fact your not...

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 22:48
Cinico,

Don’t get me started on where are all the instructors for life skills … (Oops … too late) …

I’ve had a few discussions with various people about this topic.

We end up discussing: How come they don’t teach many life skills at school? How come after 12 years of education, we don’t know how to do hardly any of the things we’re going to spend the rest of our lives doing?

Some of the main ones that keep cropping up are:

Driving (and vehicle maintenance)
Living with someone else (other than your family)
Home buying and home maintenance.
Budgeting/Managing personal finances.
Choosing the right job according to your inclinations and skills.

We always end up wondering why there is such a focus on essay writing, when none of us have ever had to write an essay in any of the jobs we have done in the real world. Most of us would have been sacked for dereliction of duty.

Homer

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:52
School is focused on teaching you about the world from an objective emotionless standpoint.

Relationships, home buying/selling etc are either things you learn in part from schools or things you should learn outside of schools.

School helps in real life though, what we do there helps up be responsible, essay writing for instance helps us develop an objective mind on the world around us for instnace. Its these little things you pick up, not necessarily that if you get an A in an essay your going to be a best selling author


Make no mistake though, 98% of my schooling life is redundant.

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 22:55
Homer

Couldn't agree more. Who needs pythagorus' theory in the real world?

Frankly, of all the things I learned at school the only one that really helped me to succeed was surviving the school yard bullying!

Cinico

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 22:57
Looks like I'm alone here on my support for schools...

(Whats so wrong about pythagorus' theory? a^2 b^2 = c^2, and a whole bunch of other simple plug'n'play formulae)...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:00
Ahmed

He fell off when he was playing on there, so I didn't encourage him to break it!

I know I'm not that over-protective, I just like to rip myself off sometimes!

Besides, I did need some pointers on how best to teach him to ride. It never hurts to listen to others advice.

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:01
To CInico & Ahmed,

I am glad that I was taught to read and write at school (and do credit the education system for that one).

Otherwise I'd miss out on the entertainment and comedic value of your posts.

Homer.




Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 23:02
I know you weren't encouraging him to break his bones, you don't pass off as a sadistic maniac you know

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:03
OMG Ahmed I can't believe you remembered that!

All I can remember from maths is how to turn a calculator on and something about 'the sum of the sides squared!'

I think schools are great, they should just offer a wider choice of subjects then the compulsory curriculum - most of the courses are designed for those who wish to enter university and not everyone wants that.

A few life-skills courses (other than Home Ec. and Manual Arts) would only serve to increase a child's real-world knowledge and there's no harm in that, is there?

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 23:07
at my highschool (this is going back to when I was in the fisrt year) it was obligatory for all pupils to take home economics (aka cooking) and yes, I benefited greatly from that (burnt pancakes anyone? Extra crispy, will literally suck the juices out of your body). Everyone also had to take a design and tech subject which involved everything from wood work to sowing, yes, sowing stuff. I never did that subject though, I think its becase I did a wood working subject.


I think teachers should learn to teach in a manner students understand, 'the sum of the sides squared' is a really oddball way of putting it.

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:08
Homer - you can read? AND write? who ever would have guessed!!


Ahmed - thank you - seems I have you and the greater community fooled! Kidding, naturally. I'm a wonderful mum - so Jack keeps telling me (though that could be because he wants a go on the play station...)

Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 23:09
playstations one word cinico

You really should have bought him a gamecube though...

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:14
Do Orble know we are using their site as a poor bloggers version of MSN Instant Messenger?


Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:15
Cinico,

If we keep this up all day, your site will get more votes than any other site has ever received. ]

Homer ...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:17
Oooh, my sides hurt from laughing!

This is payback for all the 'a new message has been posted' e-mails I've been getting from your site Homer!


Comment by Ahmed

September 30th 2006 23:18
I agree, blogs aren't MSN, however I can't help but feel you are more worried we will dethrone your ultimate 'whats your faveourite word' post...


Oh and well said Cinico.

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:19
I know....so don't stop now!

Seriously though, this is deteriorating.....even I'm ashamed of my inabilitiy to keep a focus on the task at hand....teaching my child to ride.

So, I shall cease and save it for my next post!

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:22
Cinico,

I just want to see if your site can get to 300. If you can't type due to your sides splitting ... bad luck ...

As to payback: Isn't the fact that I've spent the last hour deleting: a new message has been posted on chatter for children, posts from my Inbox payback enough?

By the way. Is what we are doing suitable conent for a site called 'Chatter for Children'? ...

Do Orble have any censorship?

Homer

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:23
Ahmed,

If I was worried about being dethroned ... I would cease posting on this site ...

And besides, I hardly consider the chair I sit on a throne ... (I do not post from the toilet) ...

Homer...

Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:24
132 and ascending ...

Comment by Cinico

September 30th 2006 23:33
Okay okay - enough already!

Even I'm getting sick of my own post!

I have an e-mail address if anyone wants to continue this discussion, send me a personal message.

Thank you to all who posted comments on how to teach Jack to ride.

I'll include some photo's when he gets it and let you all know how he (we) went!


Comment by Homer Joyce

September 30th 2006 23:46
Cinico,

I sincerely hope Ahmed and I are not preventing you from posting your next post ...

Sorry about that. This will be my final post on this post ...

Homer

Comment by Angry Little Doll

October 1st 2006 14:43
I know that I'm coming in late here and I haven't read all posts, (there are too many!!!) so forgive me if it's already been suggested!

Get a another parent & child, either starting out like Jack or more confident on a bike. Another child will give Jack a peer to watch and learn from. Another parent will give you a peer to watch and learn from. And perhaps a stiff drink after.

Comment by Cinico

October 1st 2006 22:27
LOL - Thanks LAD!

Nope, no-one has suggested that one as yet but it sounds like a great idea.

Especially the stiff drink afterwards.

Thanks

Cinico

Comment by Marnie

January 18th 2007 02:16
I have 2 boys aged 2.5 and 4 years. From as young as 1.5 years they have been riding bikes without training wheels. When the oldest one turned 3 my husband decided that our child required something to keep him amused for the afternoon.....so...he took off the training wheels and within 1 hour he had mastered it all on his own. My youngest son who is now 2.5 years has been riding his bmx bike without training wheels for 3 months. For the past 3 months we've had to be there to get him started because his legs were too short but only last week he mastered it all on his own and is progressing very fast over the small bike jumps in the back yard.

I personally think that kids need space to learn. We live on a farm and there is plenty of room for running, riding bikes and crashing bikes!! Both boys are really confident riders and I personally think it's because we showed them how to start and they quickly had to learn how to balance (and watch where they were going). My experience was that the training wheels made them fall harder. Once the trainers came off they soon worked out how to fall gracefully.

Take off the training wheels......show them how to get started and then let them have a few crashes. It's only dirt....it'll wash off. They'll be all the better for it I promise. Needless to say they'll also sleep extremely well at night time.

Marn

Comment by Anonymous

July 11th 2007 15:12
The key is the kids ability to be able to turn slightly into the side they are leaning to, this makes the bike go little faster and hence they can upright them self. it is also important to continue to pedal, fast enough not to fall over easilly but not so fast they do not have time to react to the leaning from unbalancing the bike.

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